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Will Ooloi do French beaming?
Someone asked me this the other day. Yes. Stave-line masking too. I built this once before, in 1996; there's no architectural reason Ooloi shouldn't have it. Both fall out of treating the beams, and the spaces between them, as something that sits on top of the stave rather than alongside it.
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Magnus Johansson
17/4/2026 13:30:40
Yes, Igor Engraver can do French beaming. Great tie in the second example! What is the name of the piece?
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Peter Bengtson
17/4/2026 13:39:26
The top one is by Messiaen and the second one by Florent Schmitt (Rêves), about whom Stravinsky told the London Daily Mail in February 1913 that ‘France possesses in Debussy, Ravel and Florent Schmitt the foremost musicians of the day'.
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Peter Bengtson
17/4/2026 13:40:57
And that tie - yes, it really is one of the most extreme ties I've ever seen.
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Magnus Johansson
17/4/2026 16:25:59
It is interesting that both music examples has one end of the note groups with three or four beams anchored to a stave: in the Messiaen piece the lowest beam straddles the fifth line of the left hand stave, and in the Schmitt piece the top beam hangs from the first line of the upper stave.
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Peter Bengtson
17/4/2026 17:06:10
Yes, I noticed that too and I don't think it's by chance. I wouldn't be surprised if the spacing of the staves themselves is influenced by the height and topology of the cross-stave beam group itself.
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Magnus Johansson
17/4/2026 19:33:06
Yes, you are correct. Thanks for interesting engraving examples.
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Ooloi is an open-source desktop music notation system for musicians who need stable, precise engraving and the freedom to notate complex music without workarounds. Scores and parts are handled consistently, remain responsive at scale, and support collaborative work without semantic compromise. They are not tied to proprietary formats or licensing.
Ooloi is currently under development. No release date has been announced.
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